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June 10, 2008 9:01 PM PDT

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Posted by Jim Kerstetter
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Glassdoor's data shows Yahoo's Jerry Yang became very unpopular May 14.

(Credit: Glassdoor.com)

Soon after May 14, Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang's approval rating among an admittedly small group of Yahoo employees tanked. Not surprisingly, that was the day word spread that corporate raider Carl Icahn was launching his proxy fight against Yang and Yahoo's embattled board of directors.

I know this because of a start-up called Glassdoor.com. While Glassdoor's service, scheduled to go into a public beta at 9:01 PDT Tuesday, is certainly helpful for nosy reporters who want a read on what employees think of their bosses, that's not the 12-person company's only intention. Glassdoor executives say they want to be the TripAdvisor of the workplace.

Founded by veterans of Microsoft and Expedia (Rich Barton, the CEO of real estate site Zillow, is non-executive chairman) Glassdoor has a fairly simple goal: Make salary and workplace-quality information (the kind of stuff you'd love to have when you're interviewing for a new job) as public as possible.

It's an ambitious plan. The solution: The service is free, but in order to get information users have to provide information. If a user wants to find out how much, say, a midlevel engineer at Microsoft makes, he or she has to provide information about his or her current job and company. It's anonymous, and Glassdoor screens information that seems bogus or plain-old axe-grinding. (It will be interesting to see how that labor-intensive work scales with new users. That and maintaining the quality of salary and company information are the biggest questions that will have to be answered in the not-too-distant future for Glassdoor.)

Employees provide Glassdoor's data and provide that information anonymously.

(Credit: Glassdoor.com)

Co-founders Robert Hohman and Tim Besse, along with Barton, provided the seed funding for Sausalito, Calif.-based Glassdoor, and they received an additional $3 million from venture capital firm Benchmark Capital. Hohman (who is chief executive; Besse is marketing vice president) hopes the information will be unique enough to get by on advertising revenue.

Public beta users will be able to see data from four sample employers--Yahoo, Microsoft, Google, and Cisco Systems--without providing their own information. To get information on more than those four, they'll have to "give to get," as the company calls it. So far, more than 3,300 people have filed dossiers on more than 250 companies (not all of them in tech), according to Glassdoor.

Employee reviews include "pros" and "cons" of each company, leadership ratings, salaries by position, and bonus details. The site will also send out alerts for a company when reviews are added.

Glassdoor may have a unique method for gathering its data, but it's hardly the only company trying to tackle salary information. Other outfits, such as Salary.com, which claims more than 4 million visitors per month and also sells a business service, are also in the salary info business. Indeed, human resources departments have for years been gathering data on competitors to decide if their salaries are competitive.

Which brings me back to Yahoo: While the 49 people who've filled out information about Yahoo is in no way a scientific sampling, the lousy CEO approval rating is certainly illustrative of nervousness inside the company. When a corporate raider like Icahn comes calling (particularly after a potential suitor like Microsoft takes a hike), there's always reason to worry. Will executives cut costs to placate shareholders? Even worse: If the raider wins, will he gut payroll?

For a prospective employee, of course, the bigger question is: Should I work at this place?

Jim Kerstetter has been writing about the high-tech industry for more than 13 years, as a senior editor at PC Week, a Silicon Valley correspondent at BusinessWeek, and now an executive editor at CNET News. He moved back to Boston because he missed the Red Sox. E-mail Jim.
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by coryschulz June 10, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
I very much admire Jerry Yang and everything he is doing to preserve Yahoo!'s potential. I am also glad that Google said that they would be happy to give him a place to work if he ever needed it. I think he made good decisions for Yahoo! and all these other greedy businessmen who have no morality or style are angry because they're not getting richer and fatter. Screw them. I'm proud of Jerry.
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by J. Blow June 10, 2008 11:52 PM PDT
Proud of what? squandering billions of dollars of capital that could have been spent by Yahoo shareholders in their communities? Money that could have been spent on employees would would have invested the money, spent it in their communities, and on other ventures?

That's the Jerry you're proud of? No one else has done anything immoral, unethical, or illegal. All either Microsoft or Icahn are trying to do is unlock the value that's locked inside Yahoo. If that makes them greedy so be it because millions of people will benenfit for their efforts.
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by Thomas, David June 11, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
You're statement implies that Jerry Yang isn't doing anything but sitting on cash, and behaving unethical. You are also saying that Microsoft , and Carl Icahn BOTH have the best interests of Yahoo in mind, and continue to imply that Jerry Yang does not.

Microsoft, from the outset wants to take a bite out Yahoo, and spit the rest back. Icahn wants to break it up and sell it for parts.

So you want to hang Yang, and Yahoo out to dry because you think they could be doing a better job?! Provide suggestions, so your comment(s) can be weighted for measure.
by btljooz June 11, 2008 9:06 AM PDT
BJ, you obviously have no idea what Carl Ichan did to TWA...you _do_ recall TWA do you not??? nuff said
by aMUSICsite June 11, 2008 3:17 AM PDT
The website is clever enough to show the salaries in GBP over here in the UK.

But if you try to enter your information into the 'My Job Location' box it only takes US locations, but does not say this anywhere, you have to work it out for yourself.

Oh... These guys used to work for MS. Nuff said
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by guffermcgee June 11, 2008 4:32 AM PDT
J. Blow-
Yahoo hasn't squandered anything. I assume the money you are alluding to was the buyout cash from the nixed Microsoft deal. While that money that could have been spent by investors on their community (like that was likely to happen anyway...more likely the investors would have spent it on their yacht) or on "other ventures," Yang et al. decided to forgo the cash because they felt it undervalued the value in Yahoo. Microsoft and Icahn want to unlock the value in Yahoo because they want that value for themselves. That is greedy. Yahoo and Yang said that they are going to have to pay more because they are undervaluing Yahoo. There is nothing illegal, unethical or immoral about that.

Also, judging from the lifestyles of investors, I would have to doubt that Icahn's bid would benefit millions of people; instead, it would benefit investors, and their Mercedes dealer, and their country club...
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by marc_90292 June 11, 2008 8:51 AM PDT
JBlow: get a hold of yourself. Billions of dollars squandered? Icahn the white knight? What planet are you on?
Icahn has nothing else in mind than to make as much money as he can, come HELL or high water. He doesn't give a hoot about Yahoo and will run it into the ground as he did with TWA.
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by btljooz June 11, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
by Dalkorian June 11, 2008 2:45 PM PDT
Bingo! Icahnt has a plan for Yahoo that he's clearly laid out for all to see and that plan is to sell to M$ and cash out. M$ is well known for protecting it's competition, especially after buying them out - NOT! M$ understands the search business and will help rescue Yahoo against the megalith Google - NOT! Basically, icahnt laughs to the bank and we're left with a monopoly (Ask doesn't count because under this scenario it would likely fold faster than Superman on laundry day, or possibly be the next M$ acquisition). I like Google and all, but monopolies are NEVER good for the consumer.
by gpenglase June 11, 2008 7:06 PM PDT
I agree Dalkorian.

Monopolies are never a good thing, no matter how benevolent a company seems initially. Competition keeps power distributed and people honest. I would dearly love to see Yahoo continue to grow, even if it's alongside Google, because their very presence will act as a check.
by gpenglase June 11, 2008 7:04 PM PDT
I think you're forgetting that of all the people that would financially benefit from a higher price offered by Microsoft, Jerry Yang would be the first. So my guess is that he sees that this offer is not best for ALL the stakeholders of the company, employees included. I tend to agree with him - yahoo has a chance of remaining a strong second place if they continue focusing on what they are good at and working WITH google in search, not against them. The industry is getting bigger and bigger and as they ride on the Google coattails in search they can leverage that in to the other areas that they do well.

However if Microsoft takes them over [using the poor job that MS has done at making inroads into this market - it speaks volumes that even given their monopoly of the desktop and ubiquity within the PC industry they have largely failed at search] it would mean the deathknell of Yahoo over time, and many people would both initially and ultimately lose their jobs.

Personally, I was hoping that Jerry sold, because the cost of buyout and the lack of return on investment and the masive energy it would have taken MS would have sped up the process of the downward slope that MS is on. And no MS in the PC industry is a good thing for competition and fairness IMO. But like Jerry, I don't want o sacrifice Yahoo to achieve that.
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by benjaminstraight July 31, 2008 3:55 AM PDT
Cool site.
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