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June 12, 2008 4:00 AM PDT

RepairPal: Yes, your mechanic is ripping you off

Posted by Rafe Needleman
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There's a very cool service launching this morning: RepairPal, a utility for when you need work done on your car.

As CEO David Sturtz explains, car repair is one of the classic cases where the consumer "is at an extreme informational disadvantage." Mechanics know more than you do, and this disparity can be used in the worst way: to completely rip you off. Even in the best cases, many people suspect their shop is cheating them out of money whenever their ride needs unexpected work.

To drive home his point, Sturtz told me about a study the company did when it was forming: 50 calls were made to shops asking for a price quote on a given repair. Then, a short time later, the calls were made again to the same shops, but this time with women making the queries instead of men. The average price difference was 17 percent higher when women called. Sturtz thought he could level the playing field, and not just for women.

RepairPal will tell you if your mechanic's quoted price is out of line.

RepairPal can't tell you what is wrong with your car. But if you tell it which repair the shop says you need, plus what car you have and where you live, it will tell you the real price range for the repair. The data that goes into the generation of the this range is gathered from a number of sources, including one of the super-secret labor cost estimator tables that's been available exclusively to mechanics up until now. (RepairPal has a five-year exclusive on this data.)

Sturtz worked hard in my interview with him to hammer home his point that the price estimates RepairPal generates are comprehensive and accurate and that they take in a ton of information while throwing out specious data like prices on inferior-quality parts. Nonetheless, I found a huge range on some repairs -- from $1,100 to $2,400 for a clutch replacement on my 1996 Saab in San Francisco, for example. Sturtz told me that the data did reflect the reality of different parts costs, labor costs, and competencies that shops have in estimating repair prices. He also said that the range for higher-volume vehicles, like mid-'90s American cars, is tighter. (I found the Saab figures reassuring, by the way: My local shop charged me $1,200 for a new clutch a month ago.)

RepairPal has a host of supporting features for its repair cost estimator, such as expert advice that you get when you look up a repair. For example, if your mechanic tells you that you should replace your spark plug wires when replacing a failing ignition coil, and you can see that RepairPal recommends that for your car, you can feel less suspicious of your mechanic.

There's also a way to rate your auto shop, and if you tell the site about a repair you just had or are about to, it will give you a short quiz at the appropriate time on the transaction (estimated vs. actual price, for example) as well as asking you about your subjective satisfaction with the repair. All this goes back into the giant pool of data RepairPal will use to generate recommendations and repair price estimates.

You can keep a repair log on the site.

The site will keep repair logs for your cars, recommend scheduled service items. And should you want to sell your old heap, it will generate widgets of those logs to embed in eBay or Craigslist sale listings.

RepairPal is a great idea and nicely executed, too. The hard job for the company is going to be to get users, since it's not like this site is going to be front-of-mind with them all the time. Interest from blogs, consumer advocates, and an upcoming hit on Car Talk will generate spikes in traffic, but not the persistent awareness this service will need to survive. Ongoing traffic will come primarily from search engine optimization and search advertising, Sturtz said.

Revenue will come from context-sensitive advertising at first, but the longer-term opportunities for this business are much more interesting than that. Sturtz is convinced that mechanics will love this service, since it has the potential to reduce the natural suspicion customers feel when they're told about the price of a repair. And since Sturtz thinks he'll end up as friend to the auto shop, he's looking at an OpenTable model to help shops run online scheduling for repairs, and he'll collect booking fees from that. He's also thinking that at some point he may put an open bid model on the scheduler, so users could put a call out for a standard repair (like a 30,000 mile scheduled service), and then collect bids from nearby shops on that service.

Also to come is a mobile app or a call center for the service, so consumers will be able to use the site at time they need it the most: when their car has stranded them in an unfamiliar town.

RepairPal could be a major disruptor to the auto repair business. I hope the company is able to deliver on its vision.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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by make_or_break June 12, 2008 1:22 PM PDT
Interesting tool, but not all that complete when it comes to car-specific, REALLY major repairs. For instance, one problem Porsches encounter throughout their lives is worn valve guides, a significant and costly repair that involves dropping the engine and down time of roughly 1 1/2 to 2 weeks. The RepairPal site not only didn't have any such category for Porsches, it didn't have ANY major valve repair category--beyond valve cover gasket replacement and valve adjustment and inspection--for any of the brands it supposedly tracks.
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by pearlvr4 June 12, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
Umm... What's the point of this service if the repair shop lies about what is needed to be repaired in the first place? For those that are not car savvy how would they know if it was a small repair or a whole transmission for example? Rip offs in auto repair are not necessarily limited to over pricing a specific repair, but also over estimating the complexity of the entire repair needed. For anyone who uses this service, they have to assume that the repair shop gave them an estimate for only what was needed, yet the reason for using this RepairPal is that you would already be hesitant on taking the repair shops information at face value.
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by jrwooden June 12, 2008 6:01 PM PDT
While this is good information, I resent the title "Yes, your mechanic is ripping you off"
While every business has it's share of bad apples... and businesses where in-depth knowledge is required have more opportunity your headline implies that all mechanics are dishonest.

yes your lawyer ripping you off!
yes your CPA ripping you off!
yes your computer repairman ripping you off!
yes your doctor is ripping you off!
yes your spouse is ripping you off...

come on ......... give the honest guys a break.
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by FairRepair June 13, 2008 4:56 AM PDT
Have a look at http://www.FairRepair.com. Our service will generate an accurate estimate (No ranges) giving you the exact labor time with average labor rates in your area calculated from a 65K record repair facility. Our service also lists out the exact OEM Part # & Price. Our Parts & Labor Data, along with a majority of all repair facilities estimating software is licensed through MOTOR Information Systems. If you want an accurate vehicle repair estimate, check us out.
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by DADSGETNDOWN June 14, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
There is alot to say here, but I will just say 2, I To resent the title AND EXPLANATION.
But also to address (pearlvr4)'s statement below.
Most of time the reasons for over "estimating" is because you never know the extent until
you get in there and get your hands dirty, and all to many times it will cost more, then guess
what, the shop went over the "estimate" and even though it is an "estimate" they usually
have to cover the rest of the work sometimes parts and all.
Unfortunately people do not understand the word "estimate". And shops know that all of a
sudden the customer being right or wrong (usually just an ahole) causes a bad reputation,
BBB reports, lw suits that end up being the customer is wrong and so on.

On the other hand, there is a case where 2 bad apples spoil the whole bunch.
As in
(how would they know if it was a small repair or a whole transmission for example?)

But there are cases where sometimes, it is better, cheaper, less time consuming to do a
major repair, than a bandaid fix.
Alot of sides to these stories, it comes down to people do not get the word estimate and
two bad apple syndrome.
Auto repair is not the only way people are not savvy or getting ripped off, every where,
everything, just open your eyes.
You just got ripped of by the check, service, or item you just purchased or even sold.

by pearlvr4 June 12, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
Umm... What's the point of this service if the repair shop lies about what is needed to be repaired in the first place? For those that are not car savvy how would they know if it was a small repair or a whole transmission for example? Rip offs in auto repair are not necessarily limited to over pricing a specific repair, but also over estimating the complexity of the entire repair needed. For anyone who uses this service.
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